A favorite quote...
If you’re going to try, go all the way.
Otherwise, don’t even start.
If you’re going to try, go all the way.
This could mean losing girlfriends, wives, relatives, jobs and maybe your mind.
Go all the way.
It could mean not eating for three or four days.
It could mean freezing on a park bench.
It could mean jail, it could mean derision, mockery, isolation. Isolation is the gift, all the others are a test of your endurance, of how much you really want to do it.
And you’ll do it despite the rejection and the worst odds and it will be better than anything else you can imagine.
If you’re going to try, go all the way.
There is no other feeling like that.
You will be alone with the gods and the nights will flame fire.
Do it, do it, do it.
Do it.
All the way, all the way.
You will ride life straight to perfect laughter,
it’s the only good fight there is.
-- Charles Bukowski
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WHAT THE PROS SAY: "NETWORKING"
The following excerpt is from my book, Q & A: The Working Screenwriter - An In-the-Trenches Perspective of Writing Movies in Today's Film Industry...
Q: How important is it for writers to learn how to network and develop relationships within the film industry?
Allison Burnett (Resurrecting the Champ, Autumn
in New York, Red Meat, Perfect
Romance): I don’t know if you can learn it, but being gregarious and
having a winning personality really helps.
Mylo Carbia (Statute of Limitations, Totally Lipstick)
:
The sad truth is that networking and developing relationships within the
film industry is an absolute must. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched
a producer with a stack of scripts on his desk read the one that was just hand
delivered to him because someone he knows asked him to read it. I mean, L.A.
waiters with connections get read more often than screenwriting scholars who
mail their stuff in from somewhere else.
Rolfe Kanefsky (There’s
Nothing Out There, Tomorrow By
Midnight, Shattered Lies, Pretty Cool, Corpses, Rod Steele 0014,
Jacqueline Hyde, The Hazing): Probably the most important thing.
This business is all about networking and who you know and building
relationships. The film I’m about to start shooting this year, a remake of a
slasher film from the ‘80s, came from a Production Assistant who worked on There’s Nothing Out There fifteen years
ago. I stayed in touch with him and he introduced me to some independent
producers who were trying to get a horror project off the ground. That didn’t
happen, but I’ve stayed in contact with them for the last three years and they
introduced me to another producer friend who knows the producer of this horror
remake. He got me in the door and it looks like it will happen. So, you never
know where you might get your next job, but it usually comes from long-term
relationships with people in the business. It helps to have a network group of
friends that you can trust, and hopefully they will help you and you can help
them. That's one of the reasons I really like the horror genre. People who work
in this arena tend to be very supportive. Fans and filmmakers alike want to see
you succeed. There seems to be more honesty in this genre because horror has
always been looked down upon. One small step above pornography is the way many
in Hollywood
treat horror. They keep making them because they gross too much money to
ignore. Paramount
was also ashamed of the Friday the 13th
films but kept producing them because the profits were too high. So, people who work in the horror genre
really like the genre and tend to help one another. At least, that’s what I’ve
found over the years. Horror allows you
to experiment and plot points don’t always have to resolve themselves. There
can be questions left unanswered.
Steve Latshaw (Invisible
Dad, Crash Point Zero, U.S. Seals:
Dead or Alive): Critical. Most deals I’ve made have been in
restaurants, in bars, over lunch...in social settings.
Brent Maddock (Batteries Not Included, Tremors, The
Wild Wild West): Networking
is very helpful. This is why any job
(office assistant, production assistant, driver) can be a way to establish
relationships with the people who get things done. Of course, if they’re going to like your
script, you have to have some talent.
But, if you’ve shown them you’re a good, smart, likeable person, they’ll
be far more likely to take a look at what you’ve got. Meeting them socially (at screenings, film
festivals, lectures) can also be helpful, but those situations tend to be group
gropes and it’s hard for them to tell whether you’re a serious and talented
person or just one of the numerous delusional whack-jobs who are convinced
they’ve written the next Chinatown,
only better.
John Rogers (Rush Hour 3, Catwoman, The Core, American Outlaws): Very. The fact that I'm not the wallflower writer, that I'm confident in the room and can be amusing at lunch, has certainly helped me. But again, the script wins.
John Rogers (Rush Hour 3, Catwoman, The Core, American Outlaws): Very. The fact that I'm not the wallflower writer, that I'm confident in the room and can be amusing at lunch, has certainly helped me. But again, the script wins.
Neal Marshall Stevens (Thirteen Ghosts, Hellraiser: Deader): This is
actually a small business—and it's one that's based upon relationships. I know
everybody hears that, but it's actually true. People like to hire people that
they know, that they've worked with before, that they know can deliver, whose
work they like, and who they can trust. So you need to establish those
kinds of relationships.
Stephen Susco (The Grudge, The Grudge 2): It’s one of the most important things a writer can do. It is a very small neighborhood out here, and people like to work with people they like. Face time is critical in an industry where creative collaboration is key.
Stephen Susco (The Grudge, The Grudge 2): It’s one of the most important things a writer can do. It is a very small neighborhood out here, and people like to work with people they like. Face time is critical in an industry where creative collaboration is key.
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WHAT THE PROS SAY: DEVELOPMENT HELL!
The following excerpt is from my book, Q & A: The Working Screenwriter - An In-the-Trenches Perspective of Writing Movies in Today's Film Industry...
Q: Are there any Development Hell stories you’d like to share?
Rolfe Kanefsky (There’s Nothing Out There, Shattered Lies, Rod Steele 0014, Jacqueline Hyde, The Hazing):
Where to begin? Well, I’ll tell The Hazing story since that has a happy ending and the film was
finally produced after eight years of struggle. I met a producer, Joe Wolf, who
optioned a script I wrote when I was in college, “The Host,” for a dollar. He
then hired a line producer to break down the script, got a top storyboard
artist to draw some pictures of the creature and got letters of intent from
large special effects companies to work on it. Unfortunately, they never raised
the ten million dollar budget and the script is still unproduced—but I have all
the material they created, so one day, we’ll see. Anyway, while I was dealing
with Joe Wolf, I looked at some of the other films that he was a producer on—Halloween, A Nightmare On Elm Street and Hell
Night to name a few. Well, Halloween
and Elm Street had plenty of sequels
already but nobody had ever made a Hell
Night 2. I wrote a three-page treatment and pitched Mr. Wolf “Hell Night 2:
The Hazing.” Nothing happened. A little while later, I met Alain Siritzky,
producer of the original Emmanuelle
and all of its sequels, at the American Film Market. He liked There’s Nothing Out There and a sexy
comedy script I had written called Hormones...The
Movie! He hired me to write and direct a series of erotic comedies for his
company.
In 1996, I wrote five features for him and directed four of them. A few more erotic sci-fi projects followed and that’s when I pitched him an idea. He was producing a series of erotic films under The Sex Files banner. I suggested, since Scream, horror was back in popular demand. He was about to make seven erotic films. I said, “Let’s do one straight horror film as well.” I suggested the old Roger Corman approach. Build a good set and shoot two different films on it, back to back. I offered to write the two scripts that could be filmed on the same set. One would be an erotic film and the other, a teen horror flick. Alain loved the idea and commissioned me to write both scripts. So, I was paid to write the first drafts. I looked back at my treatment for “Hell Night 2” and thought that would be a good project as a stand alone horror film called The Hazing. The script turned out well, although some people at Alain’s office at the time were afraid of the scene with the giant tongue. Some felt it was too tasteless and over the top. I argued that it’s the scene that people will talk about and that’s why it needs to stay. (More on that later.) The sets were built. We started casting and holding auditions. I even shot some Halloween parade footage on 35mm onHollywood Blvd.
The erotic film went into production first and, at the last minute, Alain
pulled the plug on The Hazing. He had
not been able to make pre-sales on the project from his foreign buyers. Scream had not yet come out in Europe and horror wasn’t that popular yet. A few people
also advised him that the horror genre would soon collapse again. They were
wrong. Almost ten years later and the horror genre is thriving more now than
ever. So, after a year the rights to The
Hazing script reverted back to me and I tried to set up the project
somewhere else.
Through a producer’s rep company, I met a man who really liked the script and wanted to produce it. I liked his energy so I gave him a free option to try to set it up. I was also talking to an employee who had just left Troma Entertainment. He was their main sales agent. He was also interested in becoming a producer and liked the script. So, I had both would-be producers working on making The Hazing. I thought if we all combined our efforts, something could happen. Someone did a budget breakdown. Someone else was contacting various foreign companies to try to shoot the film inRussia
or perhaps Denmark .
I flew to Cannes
and met with some of these guys during the film festival. William Morris got
involved and was trying to package the project at one point. Five years went by
and The Hazing never got produced. It
was then that I was called by Alain Siritzky to meet at his house with a man
named Tom Seidman. Alain had met Tom at the American Film Market. Tom had been an
Assistant Director for years in big-budget films and television. He now wanted
to become a producer. He had a horror sci-fi script that he was interested in
producing and was looking for some money to make it. Alain gave me the script
to read before the meeting. I read it and felt that it was pretty ambitious for
the budget and needed a lot of work. At Alain’s house, I met Tom for the first
time and was surprised when I heard Alain say that he was about to produce The Hazing with Roger Corman at Corman’s
Ireland studios in a few months. That was news to me! He asked if Tom would
like to get involved in our project. Tom took a copy of the script, read it,
and loved it. He was willing to put up half the money. However, Alain was busy,
about to produce another series of erotic films, and couldn’t come up with his
share of the funding at the moment. So, he, amazingly enough, walked away from
the project without asking for anything and gave Tom the ability to pursue
other funding. Tom took an option of the script from me, hired a producer’s
rep, Lantern Lane ,
and we began to move ahead. Tom almost found a partner to put up the rest of
the money but at the last minute, they got cold feet and walked away. Tom then
went to some rich friends and, with their money and his father’s money, was
able to raise the entire budget. Now, before this happened, I have to tell you
about what is probably the worst experience I ever had with script notes and
Development Hell. Now, Tom had read The Hazing numerous times once he
optioned it and we had a lot of meeting about the script. There were notes but
they were minor. I liked many of his suggestions and we seemed to see
eye-to-eye on the script in general. When Lantern Lane introduced us to these other
potential producers, they read the script, liked it, but wanted to get together
and go over everything before they would officially commit. That’s standard and
was fine with me. Actually, I was excited that they were involved. They had
recently produced a really good horror movie. So, one Saturday morning at 10:00 A.M. , Tom, myself, and David
and Brian (the producer and development guys from this other company) all met
in their offices to discuss the script. Just before this meeting I was sent
some of their notes. I was faxed over twenty pages of notes for The Hazing. As soon as I read them, I
panicked. They were questioning everything in the script. “Why does it have to
be set on Halloween? What if we change it to New Year’s Eve? Let’s change all
the characters. Why are the kids in costumes? What if the house is the villain
instead of the professor? Maybe the story could be more like H.P. Lovecraft?” These
suggestions meant a page one rewrite. I could write the script they were
suggesting but it didn’t have to have any connection to The Hazing. Now, Tom read the notes and I was shocked when he said
he felt 95% of their suggestions were really good!
So here comes the Saturday morning meeting. It begins by Brian (development guy) giving everyone, including myself, ten questions that he had put together to find out what everyone felt about the script. I sat there tired and amazed at this pop quiz on my script that asked questions like “Who is the villain of the piece? Who is the hero? What type of film is this? What is the motivation of the villain?” After seven years of working on this project, I was tempted to write “Just read the damn script!” But I answered the questions like everyone else. When we were done, we all read the answers out loud. I knew I was in trouble by the first answers to the question; “What type of film is this?” My answer was “The Hazing is a comedy/horror film just leaning over to the horror genre.” Other answers were “A teen survival thriller,” “a suspense film” and a straight “horror movie.” Throughout the eight hour day (with one hour break for lunch) we started discussing the script at page one and managed to get to page thirteen! Two more glorious sessions like this followed and I had to fight tooth and nail on almost every element of my script. My “favorite” note was during the tongue scene. Brian and David didn’t like the tongue scene. They felt that tongues aren’t scary and had another suggestion. Instead of the guy’s tongue growing four feet long while he’s going down on his girlfriend, how about a full-sized clown doll comes to life and tries to rape the guy from behind?! Luckily, Tom did like the tongue scene and I rewrote the scene, trimming it slightly but managed to hold on to the original concept. After all these “fun-filled” development sessions, I sat down and did a rewrite, incorporating some of the notes but holding on to the original script as much as possible. Much of the humor was toned down. The thing is, the comedy is what Tom and everyone else really liked about the script, but once they got closer to production, people got cold feet. Still, even after Scream, producers are scared when you combine different genres together. They’re afraid the horror and humor will fight each other and the film won’t be scary. Myself, still a big fan of Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, An American Werewolf In London, Fright Night, Tremors and the television series of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I have always embraced this challenge and know that I can pull it off. In the end, some humor stayed. Some was cut.
Anyway, when the script was finally approved and ready to go, Brian and David walked away from the project after a party in Vegas with Tom and his money people. I’ll never know what happened in Vegas on Superbowl Sunday but we lost half the money because of it. After all that work and frustration and these producers decide not to get involved. I think it had to do with control issues. But luckily when they left the party, Tom went to his friends and managed to secure the rest of the budget. So, in the long run, things worked out. I did a few more passes on the script from Tom’s notes and finally three months later, shooting commenced. The filming was not the easiest experience I had, but I am proud of the final result and it has received some of the best reviews of my career so far. And guess what—the scene that gets the most attention and acclaim is the giant tongue scene! The sales people felt the tongue scene was the best one in the film and when the MPAA gave the film an “R” rating with no cuts, our domestic distributor applauded with delight. The tongue scene survived intact but took eight years of fighting to save it. A happy ending. Rare in this business. [Also] there was a script I wrote called “Guess Again.” It was a fun, small thriller. The producer/star optioned and then bought the script. The action was too big so I had to simplify it. Then they timed out the script and felt it was long and there was too much dialogue, so they asked me to trim it. I warned them that the script is not too long and if you cut too much out, you may have a running time problem. They disagreed and I made the cuts they demanded. Two weeks after they wrapped production, they called me with a problem. The movie was running short. They needed more scenes to lengthen the running time. They also needed more action to sell it as an action movie. I had to laugh. They eventually wound up using stock footage of a car chase and a house exploding. I then had to incorporate this new footage into my script with some additional scenes. Basically, everything they cut out was put back in through this backwards approach. But, hey, what did I know? I was only the writer.
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In 1996, I wrote five features for him and directed four of them. A few more erotic sci-fi projects followed and that’s when I pitched him an idea. He was producing a series of erotic films under The Sex Files banner. I suggested, since Scream, horror was back in popular demand. He was about to make seven erotic films. I said, “Let’s do one straight horror film as well.” I suggested the old Roger Corman approach. Build a good set and shoot two different films on it, back to back. I offered to write the two scripts that could be filmed on the same set. One would be an erotic film and the other, a teen horror flick. Alain loved the idea and commissioned me to write both scripts. So, I was paid to write the first drafts. I looked back at my treatment for “Hell Night 2” and thought that would be a good project as a stand alone horror film called The Hazing. The script turned out well, although some people at Alain’s office at the time were afraid of the scene with the giant tongue. Some felt it was too tasteless and over the top. I argued that it’s the scene that people will talk about and that’s why it needs to stay. (More on that later.) The sets were built. We started casting and holding auditions. I even shot some Halloween parade footage on 35mm on
Through a producer’s rep company, I met a man who really liked the script and wanted to produce it. I liked his energy so I gave him a free option to try to set it up. I was also talking to an employee who had just left Troma Entertainment. He was their main sales agent. He was also interested in becoming a producer and liked the script. So, I had both would-be producers working on making The Hazing. I thought if we all combined our efforts, something could happen. Someone did a budget breakdown. Someone else was contacting various foreign companies to try to shoot the film in
So here comes the Saturday morning meeting. It begins by Brian (development guy) giving everyone, including myself, ten questions that he had put together to find out what everyone felt about the script. I sat there tired and amazed at this pop quiz on my script that asked questions like “Who is the villain of the piece? Who is the hero? What type of film is this? What is the motivation of the villain?” After seven years of working on this project, I was tempted to write “Just read the damn script!” But I answered the questions like everyone else. When we were done, we all read the answers out loud. I knew I was in trouble by the first answers to the question; “What type of film is this?” My answer was “The Hazing is a comedy/horror film just leaning over to the horror genre.” Other answers were “A teen survival thriller,” “a suspense film” and a straight “horror movie.” Throughout the eight hour day (with one hour break for lunch) we started discussing the script at page one and managed to get to page thirteen! Two more glorious sessions like this followed and I had to fight tooth and nail on almost every element of my script. My “favorite” note was during the tongue scene. Brian and David didn’t like the tongue scene. They felt that tongues aren’t scary and had another suggestion. Instead of the guy’s tongue growing four feet long while he’s going down on his girlfriend, how about a full-sized clown doll comes to life and tries to rape the guy from behind?! Luckily, Tom did like the tongue scene and I rewrote the scene, trimming it slightly but managed to hold on to the original concept. After all these “fun-filled” development sessions, I sat down and did a rewrite, incorporating some of the notes but holding on to the original script as much as possible. Much of the humor was toned down. The thing is, the comedy is what Tom and everyone else really liked about the script, but once they got closer to production, people got cold feet. Still, even after Scream, producers are scared when you combine different genres together. They’re afraid the horror and humor will fight each other and the film won’t be scary. Myself, still a big fan of Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, An American Werewolf In London, Fright Night, Tremors and the television series of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I have always embraced this challenge and know that I can pull it off. In the end, some humor stayed. Some was cut.
Anyway, when the script was finally approved and ready to go, Brian and David walked away from the project after a party in Vegas with Tom and his money people. I’ll never know what happened in Vegas on Superbowl Sunday but we lost half the money because of it. After all that work and frustration and these producers decide not to get involved. I think it had to do with control issues. But luckily when they left the party, Tom went to his friends and managed to secure the rest of the budget. So, in the long run, things worked out. I did a few more passes on the script from Tom’s notes and finally three months later, shooting commenced. The filming was not the easiest experience I had, but I am proud of the final result and it has received some of the best reviews of my career so far. And guess what—the scene that gets the most attention and acclaim is the giant tongue scene! The sales people felt the tongue scene was the best one in the film and when the MPAA gave the film an “R” rating with no cuts, our domestic distributor applauded with delight. The tongue scene survived intact but took eight years of fighting to save it. A happy ending. Rare in this business. [Also] there was a script I wrote called “Guess Again.” It was a fun, small thriller. The producer/star optioned and then bought the script. The action was too big so I had to simplify it. Then they timed out the script and felt it was long and there was too much dialogue, so they asked me to trim it. I warned them that the script is not too long and if you cut too much out, you may have a running time problem. They disagreed and I made the cuts they demanded. Two weeks after they wrapped production, they called me with a problem. The movie was running short. They needed more scenes to lengthen the running time. They also needed more action to sell it as an action movie. I had to laugh. They eventually wound up using stock footage of a car chase and a house exploding. I then had to incorporate this new footage into my script with some additional scenes. Basically, everything they cut out was put back in through this backwards approach. But, hey, what did I know? I was only the writer.
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